Installatie 3.1.4 lukt, maar "oud forum" weg

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Installatie 3.1.4 lukt, maar "oud forum" weg

Bericht door Tompie » 06 mei 2015, 07:26

  • Adres van je forum: http://www.stvvforum.be
    Event. modificaties op je forum: thanks for post, Tapatalk,
    Wanneer ontstond het probleem? Bij update van 3.0.14 naar 3.1.4
    phpBB versie: 3.0.14


    Heb je onlangs iets veranderd aan je forum? Een poging ondernomen om mijn bestaand forum te migreren van versie 3.0.14 naar 3.1.4
    Wat is het probleem?
Om over te schakelen van mijn 3.0.14 forum naar de 3.1.4 versie, heb ik volgende stappen doorlopen: viewtopic.php?f=92&t=59557

Het lukt me wel degelijk om versie 3.1.4 van phpBB te installeren op die manier. Maar aan het eind van de installatie krijg ik de mogelijkheid om mijn bestaand forum te converteren naar de nieuwe versie en hier loopt het mis.

Ik twijfel in eerste instantie of het mogelijk is om mijn forum op 3.0.14 over te plaatsen naar 3.1.4 via de "convertor-installatie".

Zaken waardoor het volgens mij eventueel mis kan lopen: op een gegeven ogenblik wordt mij tijdens de convertie gevraagd een 'prefix' in te geven. Ik mag daar niet phpbb_ ingeven, omdat dat al bestaat en moet dus een nieuwe naam kiezen. Geen idee wat ik daar moet ingeven, ik heb daar gewoon telkens een naam gekozen en kan dan perfect naar de volgende stappen in de convertie.

Later in de convertie wordt mij gevraagd naar het 'relatieve pad' naar het oude forum. Dat veld staat automatisch ingevuld als /forums bij mij, maar dat pad klopt niet. Ik ben een leek op vlak van ICT, dus heb ook geen flauw idee wat ik daar dan wel zou moeten invullen. Ik heb al vanalles geprobeerd (stvvforum.be, ../, /, enz.) maar niets werkt. Aangezien ik (via de link hierboven) ook al mijn mappen heb moeten verwijderen vooraleer ik aan de installatie begon op uitzondering van config, images, files en store, weet ik ook niet of ik in feite wel nog dat "pad" naar het oude forum heb. Ik weet ook niet wat het onderscheid is tussen het pad naar mijn oude en nieuwe forum. De nieuwe mappen voor installatie van 3.1.4 heb ik geüpload naar mijn public_html map vooraleer ik de installatie kon starten.

Kortom, mijn vraag is: is er een mogelijkheid of een alternatief om de berichten van mijn huidig forum (dat draait op 3.0.14) mee te nemen naar een forumversie 3.1.4?

Voorlopig moet ik dus kiezen: momenteel draai ik op versie 3.0.14 en behoud ik alle berichten/gebruikers, ofwel schakel ik over op 3.1.4 en heb ik de nieuwe functieversie, maar verlies ik al mijn berichten en gebruikers.

Ik hoop dat dit zo wat duidelijk is...
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Re: Installatie 3.1.4 lukt, maar "oud forum" weg

Bericht door El torro » 06 mei 2015, 08:10

Zaken waardoor het volgens mij eventueel mis kan lopen: op een gegeven ogenblik wordt mij tijdens de convertie gevraagd een 'prefix' in te geven. Ik mag daar niet phpbb_ ingeven, omdat dat al bestaat en moet dus een nieuwe naam kiezen. Geen idee wat ik daar moet ingeven, ik heb daar gewoon telkens een naam gekozen en kan dan perfect naar de volgende stappen in de convertie.
Die vraag wordt normaal niet gesteld, dus je doet iets fout.
Misschien de stappen nog eens goed nalezen.
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Re: Installatie 3.1.4 lukt, maar "oud forum" weg

Bericht door Tompie » 06 mei 2015, 08:49

Ik heb ondertussen toch al meerdere keren geprobeerd en heb telkens netjes de "stappen" doorlopen.

Het feit is: de installatie van 3.1.4 is in orde en als ik wil kan ik ook gewoon starten met dat forum. Maar dat forum is dus wel leeg.

Ik volg enkel de stapjes die ik krijg als ik de 3.1.4 bestanden heb geüpload en naar stvvforum/install (enfin, iets in die aard) ga. Die stappen die ik daar doe bestaan in feite gewoon uit op "verder" klikken en hier en daar moet ik iets ingeven (naam van mijn database, username en wachtwoord). Maar daar is dus ook een veld dat vraagt naar een prefix, dat automatisch ingevuld staat op "phpbb_". Maar als ik daar dan op "verder" klik, krijg ik de foutmelding dat die prefix al bestaat en ik een andere prefix moet kiezen.

Als ik dan een andere prefix ingeef, kan ik gewoon verder, ongeacht wat ik daar ingeef. Maar ik moet wel iets ingeven of kan niet verder.

Uiteindelijk loop ik dan bij de convertie vast wanneer ik het relatief pad moet ingeven naar het oude forum.

Ik doe dus zeker geen andere stapjes dan in de handleiding voorzien, Misschien dat in de 'normale' gang van zaken je daar gewoon het automatisch ingevulde veld kan laten staan en toch verder kan... Geen idee.
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Re: Installatie 3.1.4 lukt, maar "oud forum" weg

Bericht door El torro » 06 mei 2015, 09:21

Ga je echt hierheen:
http://<pad_naar_jouw_forum>/install/database_update.php

Want je moet de database updaten geen nieuwe maken..Daar ga je dus ergens in de fout.
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Re: Installatie 3.1.4 lukt, maar "oud forum" weg

Bericht door Tompie » 06 mei 2015, 10:02

Ja, dat is wel degelijk de manier waarop ik het geprobeerd heb... :)

Het enige wat ik zo nog kan bedenken:

Ga nu naar de server waar je forum gehost staat en verwijder alle phpBB3 bestanden, BEHALVE:
config.php
de map images
de map files
de map store

Ik denk dat ik dit correct doe, maar ik doe dit enkel in de map "public_html" (waar die bewuste mapjes config, images, files en store in staan), maar op het niveau waar het mapje "public_html" staat heb ik nog wel andere mapjes staan zoals .appdate, .php, .pki, domains, imaps, backups, enz.

Die mapjes heb ik altijd laten staan omdat ik niet wist of die wel iets te maken hadden met de installatie van 3.1.4. Maar misschien moet ik op dat niveau ook alles wegdoen, zodat enkel de map "public_html" overblijft met daarin config, images, files en store?
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Re: Installatie 3.1.4 lukt, maar "oud forum" weg

Bericht door Tompie » 06 mei 2015, 14:09

Ik heb het nog eens geprobeerd, maar krijg nu onderstaande foutmelding als ik mijn forum probeer te bezoeken (na het updaten van de database). Eerst kreeg ik een blanco pagina, maar ik heb in de config.php ervoor gezorgd dat ik de foutmelding kan zien:

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Re: Installatie 3.1.4 lukt, maar "oud forum" weg

Bericht door Theriddler » 06 mei 2015, 16:39

Doe het update process opnieuw zoals hier viewtopic.php?f=92&t=59557 uitgelegd.

Zorg ervoor dat je deze handleiding exact volgt en verwijder dus alle oude bestanden van phpBB 3.0.14
behalve de genoemde mappen en de config.php voor je de nieuwe bestanden van 3.1.4 upload.

Kom je er echt niet uit, dan zou ik je wel evt kunnen helpen. Zolang je een backup hebt van 3.0.14 en bestanden+mappen kun je altijd terug gaan wanneer het fout gaat.

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Re: Installatie 3.1.4 lukt, maar "oud forum" weg

Bericht door Tompie » 06 mei 2015, 17:27

Ik heb het nog enkele keren geprobeerd, maar zonder succes. Soms krijg ik gewoon een blanco homepage, soms een foutmelding (zoals hierboven weergegeven).

Ik weet ook niet in welke mate het nodig is dat ik de overstap naar 3.1 maak, ik ben momenteel wel tevreden met de 3.0.14 maar weet niet hoe lang die nog ondersteund zal worden.

Het is natuurlijk maar een uitstel van executie, want vroeg of laat zal ik wellicht toch moeten overstappen naar de 3.1 versie...
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Re: Installatie 3.1.4 lukt, maar "oud forum" weg

Bericht door Theriddler » 06 mei 2015, 17:33

Graag willen wij ook gebruikers er op attenderen dat alleen deze maand (Mei 2015) nog fouten (buiten veiligheidsfouten) worden opgelost in de 3.0.x reeks. De veiligheidsfouten worden nog opgelost tot November 2015 door het phpBB-ontwikkelingsteam, zoals phpBB.com dit eerder had gemeld.

Om deze reden adviseren we gebruikers om hun forum bij te werken naar de nieuwe 3.1.x reeks, deze versie heeft vele nieuwe functies
Zowiezo tot November daarna is het End of life voor 3.0.x

De planning is als volgt:
  • Nov 2014 - 3.1.0 Release
  • Mei 2015 - 3.0.x End of Maintenance
  • Nov 2015 - 3.0.x End of Life, 3.2.0 Release
  • Mei 2016 - 3.1.x End of Maintenance
  • Nov 2016 - 3.1.x End of Life, 3.3.0 Release
  • Mei 2017 - 3.2.x End of Maintenance
Back ontopic ;)
Tompie schreef:Ik heb het nog enkele keren geprobeerd, maar zonder succes. Soms krijg ik gewoon een blanco homepage, soms een foutmelding (zoals hierboven weergegeven).
Welke upload methode gebruik je om de bestanden van 3.1.4 te uploaden?
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Re: Installatie 3.1.4 lukt, maar "oud forum" weg

Bericht door Tompie » 06 mei 2015, 17:43

Ik upload de bestanden via Filezilla.

Zoals ik hierboven al aanhaalde, weet ik wel niet wat ik moet doen met de mapjes die op hetzelfde niveau staan als public_html. Ik verwijder in die map alles behalve config.php en de mapjes images, files en store. Maar als ik dan een niveau hoger ga, dan kom ik uit waar de map "public_html" staat en daar heb ik nog mapjes staan. Moet ik die ook verwijderen voor ik de bestanden van 3.1.4 upload? Ik durf dat niet goed, omdat ik daar mapjes zie tussenstaan zoals "backups" en "domains". Ik heb schrik dat als ik die mappen ook verwijder, ik nadien niet meer over een back-up beschik om terug te zetten?

Nog een tweede vraagje: moet ik de bestanden van 3.1.4 plaatsen op het niveau van "public_html" of in één van de mapjes die nog overblijven (vb. root)?

Verder zet ik mijn stijl altijd op prosilver en verwijder ik de andere stijlen voor ik begin te updaten. Ik vraag me af of ik ook iets met de taalpakketten moet doen (ik heb Nederlands, Engels, Frans en standaard ingesteld is "nl_x_formal"). Ik heb het gevoel dat dat taalpakket ook problemen oplevert als ik de update probeer uit te voeren, maar ben daar niet zeker van...

Mijn excuses voor al mijn vragen in ieder geval, maar ik ben min of meer een leek op dit gebied. :)
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Re: Installatie 3.1.4 lukt, maar "oud forum" weg

Bericht door Hartenheer » 06 mei 2015, 18:16

Theriddler schreef: Zowiezo tot November daarna is het End of life voor 3.0.x

De planning is als volgt:
  • Nov 2014 - 3.1.0 Release
  • Mei 2015 - 3.0.x End of Maintenance
  • Nov 2015 - 3.0.x End of Life, 3.2.0 Release
  • Mei 2016 - 3.1.x End of Maintenance
  • Nov 2016 - 3.1.x End of Life, 3.3.0 Release
  • Mei 2017 - 3.2.x End of Maintenance
Back ontopic ;)
Nog even offtopic.
Met dit bericht krijg je het idee dat er helemaal mee gestopt gaat worden. :cry:
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Re: Installatie 3.1.4 lukt, maar "oud forum" weg

Bericht door El torro » 06 mei 2015, 18:38

Je forum staat vermoedelijk in de map "public_html"

Dus alleen daar naar toe uploaden verder nergens aankomen.
Ik heb het nog enkele keren geprobeerd, maar zonder succes. Soms krijg ik gewoon een blanco homepage, soms een foutmelding (zoals hierboven weergegeven).
Kan je ook aangeven welke meldingen je krijgt is de tussen stappen?
Wordt er nog steeds gevraagd voor een prefix van de database?

Hier is trouwens nog iemand met hetzelfde probleem, :
https://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtop ... &t=2285896
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Re: Installatie 3.1.4 lukt, maar "oud forum" weg

Bericht door dmzx » 06 mei 2015, 19:48

Verwijder eens alle stylen behalve prosilver en alle taalpakketten behalve EN.
Daarna met STK Link de database opschonen.(lees ook even hoe STK werkt ;) )

En daarna de update uitvoeren naar 3.1.4

Wel altijd een backup maken voordat je begint ;)
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Re: Installatie 3.1.4 lukt, maar "oud forum" weg

Bericht door Tompie » 06 mei 2015, 21:03

Ik heb het nog eens geprobeerd en krijg nu dit:

Updating database to latest stable release

Database type :: mysqli
Previous version :: 3.0.14
Migration already effectively installed (skipped): \phpbb\db\migration\data\v30x\release_3_0_14_rc1
Installing Schema: \phpbb\db\migration\data\v31x\v314rc1.
Installed Schema: \phpbb\db\migration\data\v31x\v314rc1; Time: 0.00 seconds
Installing Data: \phpbb\db\migration\data\v31x\v314rc1.
Installed Data: \phpbb\db\migration\data\v31x\v314rc1; Time: 0.00 seconds
Installing Schema: \phpbb\db\migration\data\v31x\v314rc2.
Installed Schema: \phpbb\db\migration\data\v31x\v314rc2; Time: 0.00 seconds
Installing Data: \phpbb\db\migration\data\v31x\v314rc2.
Installed Data: \phpbb\db\migration\data\v31x\v314rc2; Time: 0.00 seconds
Installing Schema: \phpbb\db\migration\data\v30x\release_3_0_14.
Installed Schema: \phpbb\db\migration\data\v30x\release_3_0_14; Time: 0.00 seconds
Installing Data: \phpbb\db\migration\data\v30x\release_3_0_14.
Installed Data: \phpbb\db\migration\data\v30x\release_3_0_14; Time: 0.00 seconds
Installing Schema: \phpbb\db\migration\data\v31x\v314.
Installed Schema: \phpbb\db\migration\data\v31x\v314; Time: 0.00 seconds
Installing Data: \phpbb\db\migration\data\v31x\v314.
Installed Data: \phpbb\db\migration\data\v31x\v314; Time: 0.00 seconds
Database updater has completed!

Please make sure you have updated your board files too, this file is only updating your database.
You should now login to your board and check if everything is working fine. Do not forget to delete, rename or move your install directory!

Maar als ik dan naar de homepage ga, blijft die gewoon wit... Ik heb wel nog niet geprobeerd om met STK de database op te schonen.
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Re: Installatie 3.1.4 lukt, maar "oud forum" weg

Bericht door Tompie » 06 mei 2015, 21:07

Deze foutmeldingen krijg ik als ik de config aanpas om de errors te kunnen zien:

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Re: Installatie 3.1.4 lukt, maar "oud forum" weg

Bericht door El torro » 06 mei 2015, 21:09

Krijg je nu altijd verschillende meldingen als je op dezelfde manier probeert te updaten, of doe je altijd wat anders?

Hoe meer info je geeft hoe beter en sneller je geholpen kan worden.

Wat weleens wil helpen is om de cache te legen via ftp
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Re: Installatie 3.1.4 lukt, maar "oud forum" weg

Bericht door Tompie » 06 mei 2015, 21:22

Wat ik de laatste x heb proberen te doen is mijn stijl instellen op prosilver, alle andere stijlen heb ik verwijderd. Daarnaast heb ik mijn taal ingesteld op Engels, alle andere taalpakketten heb ik verwijderd.

Daarna heb ik alles verwijderd behalve config.php en de bewuste mapjes.

Vervolgens heb ik de nieuwe bestanden geüpload via Filezilla naar public_html.

Daarna ging ik naar http://www.stvvforum.be/install/database_update.php
Daar kreeg ik de melding dat de update succesvol gelukt was en ik het forum moest checken en het "install" bestand moest verwijderen of een andere naam geven enz.

Maar als ik dan naar http://www.stvvforum.be surf, krijg ik standaard een blanco pagina. Om dan toch de foutmeldingen te zien, pas ik het config.php bestand aan. Als ik erna opnieuw naar http://www.stvvforum.be surf, krijg ik de foutmeldingen die ik hierboven heb geplaatst.

Standaard krijg ik dus een blanco pagina, na het aanpassen van config.php zie ik een hele resem foutmeldingen.

Zoals je (El torro) hier al hebt aangehaald, staat hier hetzelfde probleem: https://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtop ... &t=2285896
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Re: Installatie 3.1.4 lukt, maar "oud forum" weg

Bericht door El torro » 06 mei 2015, 22:10

Je stijl staat nu op subsilver2 of werk je met een test forum?
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Re: Installatie 3.1.4 lukt, maar "oud forum" weg

Bericht door Tompie » 06 mei 2015, 22:24

Dat klopt. Ik heb nu mijn backup versie 3.0.14 teruggezet zodat het forum opnieuw bereikbaar is.
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Re: Installatie 3.1.4 lukt, maar "oud forum" weg

Bericht door Theriddler » 06 mei 2015, 22:43

dmzx schreef:STK Link de database opschonen.(lees ook even hoe STK werkt ;) )

En daarna de update uitvoeren naar 3.1.4
heb je dit al geprobeerd, werkwijze wat dmzx voorstelt?

Database opschonen met de support toolkit wanneer je op 3.0.14 zit

De stijlen verwijderen heeft geen zin immers deze verwijder je al voor het uploaden van nieuwe 3.1.4 bestanden en mappen. Tenminste neem aan dat je dat wel hebt gedaan?

Ik zou dus eerst de database opschonen met de database cleaner optie (zodat ook oude modificaties verwijderd worden) maar let op wanneer je phpbb gallerij gebruikte en je wil deze behouden dat je ook de gallery map behoud.

Daarna de uitleg volgen hoe update ik 3.0.x naar 3.1.x

nb. of proberen eerst te updaten naar 3.1.3 aangezien ik daar geen soortgelijke berichten van kan vinden met dit probleem. En daarna naar 3.1.4 (het is te proberen)
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